Shot down hours later? | B-17G 42-31373 „Flak Stop“

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  • Опубликовано: 5 мар 2024
  • The story about the B-17G 42-31373 „Flak Stop“ of the 452nd Bomb Group.
    It was shot down on 06 March 1944 with Lt. Charles F. Wagner and his crew.
    At least, two picture were found in NARA and possibly the last pictures of this B-17 and crew.
    But, I am not sure about the date of the pictures.
    This video about „Flakstop“ will also explain why I am note sure about the date of the pictures (may it’s wrong).
    === Crew of „Flakstop“ on 06 March 1944 ===
    Pilot: 2Lt. Charles F. Wagner - KIA
    Co-Pilot: 2Lt Alan R. Willis - EVD
    Navigator: 2Lt. Clyde J. Martin - EVD
    Bombardier: 2Lt Henry H. Gladys - EVD
    Engineer: T/Sgt. Donald Arthur Porter - EVD
    Radio Operator: T/Sgt. Francis Shaffer - KIA
    Ball Turret Gunner: S/Sgt. Lloyd J. Freeman - POW
    Waist Gunner: Sgt. Joseph E. Tracy Jr. - KIA
    Waist Gunner: S/Sgt. Frederick V. Richmond - KIA
    Tail Gunner: T/Sgt. George L. James - KIA
    === NOTE ===
    The footages and pictures in this video are showing originals from WW 2.
    But not showing the actual footage or picture about the subjected B-17 and crew. Unless I mention it in the video. I am not a native English Speaker. So, sorry my pronunciation isn’t accurate. You can active the subtitle with the transcript.
    === Voice Over Actors & AI Voices ===
    I am using voice over actors or AI voices for the eyewitness statements.
    === Corrections ===
    None
    === Sources ===
    MACR 2916
    = Escape & Evasion Reports:
    2Lt. Clyde J. Martin E & E 2276
    T/Sgt. Donald A. Porter: E & E 2047
    2Lt. Alan R. Willis: E & E 1676
    2Lt. Henry H. Gladys: E & E 1677
    = Pictures
    Bremen + Caption:
    catalog.archives.gov/id/20489...
    06 March 1944 (Berlin) + Caption - 1:catalog.archives.gov/id/20489...
    06 March 1944 (Berlin) + Caption - 2:
    catalog.archives.gov/id/20489...
    Single B-17 of the 452nd BG (Berlin) at 03:29 - Possible "Flakstop"
    catalog.archives.gov/id/20489...
    = Mission List
    1: img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/e654...
    2: www.angelfire.com/ne2/b17sunr...
    === Musik/Music ===
    None
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Комментарии • 30

  • @g.j.westhoff5475
    @g.j.westhoff5475 4 месяца назад +12

    Every 6th of march the students of group 8 of the Prins Mauritsschool in Staphorst remember the lost soldiers of the Flakstop by the monument at the Zwarteveenweg in Staphorst. It crashed in a meadow nearby the school.

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад +2

      thank you for the information. I didn't knew that before. I will fix your comment below the video :)

  • @tracylilienthal1996
    @tracylilienthal1996 Месяц назад +7

    My Great Uncle Clyde was the Navigator on this B-17 Flakstop. When I asked him about this, he had said they were on their 5 1/2 mission when they were shot down. He lived to the age of 97 passing away in 2020. He always had a little windmill in his garden to show his love for the Dutch people who risked their lives to smuggle him back to the Allied lines.

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  Месяц назад

      Thank you for sharing, Tracy. I read your comment to "Flak Stop" on my web site too. And did you noticed the replies?

    • @DickWillis1
      @DickWillis1 27 дней назад

      Tracy, my Father was Co-pilot Alan Willis. He stayed in touch with your great Uncle Clyde. I spoke with Clyde by phone but never had the honor of meeting him. My Dad passed away in 1991. I am going to Holland and Belgium in August to visit the memorial at the crash site in Staaphorst and to visit Charlie Wagner’s grave at Margratten. Wagner stayed at the controls so the others could bail out. By the time the surviving crew made it out, Flakstop was too low to jump. Wagner attempted a crash landing in the field so that the plane would not crash into the village. His sacrifice saved the lives of the 5 surviving crewmen, who went on to lead productive lives. Two of the guides who escorted my Dad and bombardier Hank Gladys across the Meusse River at Maastricht were captured and executed by the Nazis. Joke Folmer, who was given the presidential Freedom medal by President Truman for her work in the Dutch Resistance, escorted your great uncle and my Dad from Meppel to Roermond. She was captured and sent to a concentration camp but survived and lived a long and distinguished life. Sgt Freemans survived captivity, including the infamous “long march” of allied PoWs in 1945 as the war ended. All 4 remaining crewmen were part of “operation marathon” which established secret camps in the Belgian Ardennes for allied flyers. My Dad and Hank were repatriated on Sept 6 1944 by elements of the American Army as they moved through southern Belgium - exactly 6 months to the day that they were shot down.
      My Dad held the Dutch people in very high regard. The bravest on earth. I owe my life and my family to them and to Lt. Charles Wagner.

    • @DickWillis1
      @DickWillis1 27 дней назад +1

      @@B17FlyingFortress you have a website? Please post the address. Thank you so much for doing this video.

  • @Go4Corvette
    @Go4Corvette 4 месяца назад +8

    One of the B17s my father flew in was triangle G tail marking. 52 bombing missions in the B17s. RIP to the crews who never came back. o7

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад +1

      Triagle G is the unit sign for the 305th Bomb Group. 52 missions is a lot!

  • @ToddChaddingtonEsq
    @ToddChaddingtonEsq 4 месяца назад +7

    these are getting better and better

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад

      My videos? I am learning with every video and just swtiched to another software. But research hasn't changed much :)

  • @aaronjohn6586
    @aaronjohn6586 4 месяца назад +3

    Great video and well done on your historical record.

  • @VERSA-6
    @VERSA-6 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you! Very interesting!

  • @pamshewan9181
    @pamshewan9181 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @AAO342
    @AAO342 4 месяца назад +2

    Another great video . Well researched and presented . Thank you .

  • @g.j.westhoff5475
    @g.j.westhoff5475 4 месяца назад +4

    The plane crashed at 3.30 p.m. Before it came down it made a turn above Staphorst. Lots of people saw it. Also the children at the primary school. It was at the moment the lestime was done. Some children ran to the wreck. They saw: 'Two men lay next to the plane, under parachutes. Germanen soldier guarden the burning plane. L.J. Freeman jumped out the plane, but his parachute did not open. So he fell down an broke his leg. Local people help him and brought him to an farm nearby.

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад +1

      incredible information. Lloyd Freeman had a lot of luck to survive.

    • @clazy8
      @clazy8 4 месяца назад +3

      The chute didn't open completely? Years ago I read an account by a B17 crew member whose chute did not fill, and his legs got caught in the shrouds. His fall was slowed and stopped by the limbs of fir trees and he survived, though I think he was blinded in one eye, which apparently burst. Captured, and his guards had a hard time looking at him. I guess if you have enough people dropping out of the sky with chute failures, a few will get lucky. Every minute lived thereafter must seem like a gift.

  • @ColinH1973
    @ColinH1973 4 месяца назад +2

    Excellent video, thank you.

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад

      thank you for watching! :) I am doing my best I can and I have a lot of fun to create these videos. :)

  • @majorbloodnok6659
    @majorbloodnok6659 4 месяца назад +1

    Once again, thank you

  • @user-mt8dk2bp1z
    @user-mt8dk2bp1z 4 месяца назад +2

    My father flew with the 452nd shot down May 12,1944

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj 24 дня назад

    TY 🙏

  • @laurengenthe1255
    @laurengenthe1255 4 месяца назад

    Oh wow, thank you for sharing this video! This was my grandfather’s plane.

  • @Mark-uh7cr
    @Mark-uh7cr 4 месяца назад +3

    Wow exactly 80 years ago

    • @B17FlyingFortress
      @B17FlyingFortress  4 месяца назад +1

      yeah, it was planed :) I am trying to publishing video of B-17, when they went lost at same day +/- 80 years ago. Of course, not working everytime, but I am trying :) Thank you for watching! :)